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praise a restaurant for its politics, all we ask is check, please. that's all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more of mtp daily. the beat with ari melber starts now. donald trump spent last week on the defensive and partly caved over his border policy. tonight, he is clearly eager to turn the corner. let me tell you exactly what's happening. your president is advocating a blatantly unconstitutional proposal to gut due process inside the united states. from a legal perspective, the good news tonight is due process is not a choice for politicians. this is not donald trump's call. it is a right secured in the fifth amendment, and upheld by judg judges. trump raised a new topic that underscores limits on his own power, and maybe limits on his knowledge because it is one thing to say you want to get
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tougher on the border and another to propose things that are so unconstitutional that basically everyone knows, including your allies in congress, you can't do the thing you're talking about. >> they said we'd like to hire 5,000 more judges. 5,000. you ever hear of a thing like that, judges. we want a system where when people come in illegally, they have to go out. and nice, simple system that works. they want to hire now 5,000 more judges so that a person puts the toe in the land, we have to go to trial. this is crazy what we're doing. i don't want judges. i want border patrol, i want i.c.e. >> the president doesn't want judges. that sound you hear is the sound of no one caring.
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nobody. because under our constitution presidents do not pick other branches of government. tonight, i can tell you as a legal matter, no one cares if donald trump wants or doesn't want judges. if you put aside the actual rhetoric coming from the white house and try to consider more technical version of the argument because people will be talking about it, you can say okay do people trying to immigrate to the united states get the same due process as americans, even if that's not the president's call to make. is there too much due process for migrants. the short answer tonight is no. the part of the government that makes this call, the courts, has ruled many times that even when the u.s. denies entry to humans or deports them from the border which the u.s. can choose to do, they're still entitled to human rights. the supreme court upheld that in the 1800s and in 1953, and has recently as 1982.
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keep the legal facts in mind when you watch the white house spokesperson struggle to defend trump's legal fictions. >> makes no sense an illegal alien sets one foot on american soil and go through a three to five year judicial process to be removed from the country. thousands of illegal aliens are removed every month without seeing an immigration judge. just because you don't see a judge doesn't mean you aren't receiving due process. >> that's the scene in washington. while it may be comforting that trump can't eliminate due process more than he can implement the original travel ban after courts blocked it, the administration focus on the side show occurs instead of more pressing duties, like reuniting families split under the partially discontinued policy. updates on that tonight. parents are being told they can see their kids again if they agree immediately to deportation. one parent said they signed it out of desperation to see a six-year-old child, adding the
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truth is i can't go back to honduras. another father hasn't been able to speak to his daughter trapped somewhere in the u.s. >> papa. when are you going to take me out of here? >> when? >> i am joined by criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor and jacob soboroff who is reporting this immigration crisis in texas and has covered the border for us at msnbc for quite some time. i start with you as an attorney. your view of donald trump saying things that underscore his own relevance because he doesn't
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decide how many judges there are and how this operates against a backdrop of pressing work there is to be done. >> right. it is ridiculous to take this point of view. i don't think he knows what due process is and how it works. >> you think this comes from ignorance than anything else? >> not just igrance, but everything we have seen from this president which is ignorance on top of racism on top of race baiting, using these poor people, we're talking about a small group of immigrants coming from three specific countries that have been war torn. i have clients from this part of the world. what they have to deal with is truly awful. i think what the president has done is made a statement that has all of us talking about what the rights should be for people involved and there's no getting around the fact that under our constitution once you step into the country, there are certain rights and due process that they have. >> you were speaking to border patrol chief in the rio grande. let's look at that, jake. >> are you trying to deter
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people from coming bicy separatg children and parents and prosecuting 100% of parents coming here? >> yes. and we do not do anything, we're going to be in crisis mode. >> separating parents and kids is to put consequences on them coming here together. >> yes, yes. >> so if donald trump cared about the rights of people, he wouldn't have put a policy in place designed to tear families apart, rip apart asylum rights of tens of thousands of people that come to the united states on a regular basis. this whole thing was done without any care in mind for the rights of people, whether it is due processor asylum. i saw what it looks like on the ground when you don't care about rights of people. children in cages, by themselves, ripped apart from parents, and the parents may be as many as all 2053 kids could be deported.
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may never see their kids or parents again. >> that's the human side of this, why there's outrage still going around the nation. you mention being an attorney. this is a crash course in a kind of law school for the nation, but not the good kind because everyone is sitting around their dining room table talking about how this works. it is understandable that some people feel given problems in the country, given poverty and everything we owe our citizens, the question comes up what do we owe other people. yet this is aonstitutional democracy that has due process. i want to play sarah huckabee sanders on the judges thing. it is good to have judges overseeing the process, it ensures it is fair. a lot of people do get deported. we know that. the notion that the president and his people in the white house are spending today talking about, maybe we don't want judges is chilling even though they don't have the power. take a listen. >> who's proposed to add 5,000 judges. i have seen 750 as a max. >> there are a number of different proposals, quite a few
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we've seen. we've laid out what we would like to see. hopefully congress will work with us to make that happen. >> walk us through how this is supposed to work when you have judges involved in the asylum and process. >> talking immigration judges, not federal district judges. and asylum judges which trump is in charge of. if he hired the number of judges or lawyers necessary, department of justice makes them immigration lawyers. this is an administrative process. this isn't a long trial. >> let's be clear. you're making a subtle distinction, which is the constitution says people have rights, that includes noncitizens in the same way that they have a right to be free from torture, a right to due process. they have immigration judges set aside to do that, different and
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shorter and leaner than what americans think of as full trial for an american citizen. >> correct. immigration is a privilege, not a right. therefore the same kind of rights you have in a criminal trial don't apply in immigration hearing, which is an administrative hearing. which by the way, the person seeking asylum has all of the burden, have to prove their case. >> based on what you said, do you think donald trump knows what you're talking about or not? >> i think this president has proved beyond a reasonable doubt he doesn't understand how our government works. >> both of you stay with me. i want to turn to an important guest in california. ten state attorneys general are suing trump over the family separation policy. california attorney general is helping to lead the suit, claiming the policy is inhumane and draconian. thank you for joining me in a busy time as you work on this case. first question out of the gate. even if someone agrees with you about criticism of the policy,
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what do you say to the narrow argument that trump partly backed down last week, why do you need to sue? >> because his executive action, ari, was incomplete, it was incomprehensible, probably doesn't work right. we have no sense of what will happen to the children, where they'll go, how long it will last. like many of the things this administration has done, they don't really think through them in a logical way. so we're filing suit to defend the constitutional rights of these families and certain of the children. no child should be put in a child internment camp. >> you are suing the trump administration but you've also been out in the front here against attorney general sessions, your counterpart at the federal level, and he blasted back at you. take a look. >> so california absolutely appears to me is using every power it has, powers it doesn't
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have to frustrate federal law enforcement. so you can be sure i'm going to use every power i have to stop that. >> as you understand, he is alleging that california as a legal process which you lead are somehow out in excess of your state authority and that he's going to push back. your response, sir? >> we're going to do what we need to do in california. we believe in upholding the law, including federal law and the constitution, and that's exactly what we're doing. i think ag sessions had at least one part right, that is that we're using every power we have under the law. we will defend ourselves where we need to and file action to protect our people where we must. so far we've had a whole lot more victories than we've seen any defeat going against the trump administration, and that's principally because the courts are showing us, no one, including the occupant in the
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oval office, is above the law. >> you say no one is above the law. this goes to an interesting point which you understand and i think viewers have gathered. the immigration power is second probably only to war making power for an area where the chief executive gets wide, wide latitude, traditionally in the courts, as you know. yet in the travel ban and on sanctuary cities and border separation policy, we have seen this president, even with the wide latitude appear to go beyond it. what does it tell you, what is the significance of the fact that this president, donald trump, seems to get into so much trouble when he tries to do things on immigration. do you think that's a product as we were discussing before you joined us of ignorance or of some malign intent? >> i think it's a cavalier way of trying to make policy and execute the law they're running into the constitution. we don't have the right in
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california to issue immigration laws and we respect the federal government's right to enforce immigration laws. we have a right to enforce the federal constitutn the federal government and the trump adminiration try to execute laws in a way that violate people's constitutional rights. that's why we have had victories against them on any number of issues, whether it is daca dreamers, stop the trump administration from cancelling the daca program, or in victories we've had so far in protecting our state's right to determine how we use law enforcement authority and not allow the federal government to believe they can come and deer us into using our funds the way we want to in the state of california. >> final question, sir. when the president says we should maybe do this without judges, is that unconstitutional in your view? >> it's also immoral and wrong
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headed and also against the law, violation of due process. on any number of grounds, what donald trump is saying is not going to happen, as long as we stand up to this type of cavalier, rogue activity of the occupant of the white house. >> i guess i should also close by apologizing. i know you to be a seasoned litigator. it is embarrassing as my job as journalist, i have to ask whether the fifth amendment exists or not. i guess that's where we are. attorney general, thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> appreciate it. turn back to the panel. your response to what the attorney general says and what he is doing, the state ag stepping up to put a line in the sand so if donald trump decided tomorrow to change the executive order, he can go back and forth, they would try to get a ruling locking this in. >> first of all, want to thank him, as a lawyer, he is doing a great job defending our rights
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and standing up to this administration. i also want to say i think it is very important. there is no immigration crisis. this has been completely created by trump to gin up his base. if we look at the numbers, that is people trying to come across the country without documentation or two or three thousand that stopped in the crisis in the past few weeks, this has been created to gin up his base. this is an administration using people escaping civil wars, gangs, and horrible conditions. >> you're speaking about asylum context and overall data, but it is also true the united states has a long border, there is undocumented immigration. whether we call it a crisis is a question. but there is an undocumented immigration challenge for law enforcement here. >> there is and there always
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will be in the united states as long as employers don't have to verify, don't have a system where they are held responsible for hiring people that don't have documentation. that's really one thing that both republicans and democrats have in common when it comes to immigration, they don't hold corporations accountable, only the poor people coming to work. >> talking about dual party system, vis-a-vis corporate america. i am familiar with that. jacob, let's step back. we talked the law and lawsuits. what have you seen out there in the past months on a story that started in one place where a republican said this is a winner for them to the past several weeks where it does seem there's to be a change. >> i hope the americans are starting to understand the difference between perception of what happens on the border and washington, d.c. and the reality of what happens on the border. the reality is you're absolutely correct, there's no crisis on the border. undocumented immigration,
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apprehensions on the southern border are as low as they have been since the 1970s. it's an unbelievable thing to hear the president talk about violence across the southern border, drugs across the southern border, use it as justification for ripping apart families, putting children in prison cells. when the attorney general said as a journalist, it is fascinating to hear them talk about the lawsuits, don't know where the kids go next. i want to see where the lawsuits go, from state of california and aclu, we know kids aren't going in cages, but railrodon't know families are going. >> you put your finger on an important part which is many parents, particularly those that signed detention orders for deportation have little to no standing to get kids back. >> that's right. >> we have seen senators held at the doorway of the institutions, you and other journalists trying to report it out. if these go forward, that
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creates additional leverage point and standing to keep an eye on this and see about the humanitarian part. >> could change the game. it could change what ultimately happens with these people. as we know right now, 2053 young kids are sitting in detention tonight in hhs custody. the questions before were where are the girls, where are the toddlers, those questions still apply. next question is where is everyone going next. >> we are indebted to your reporting. appreciate your legal handicapping of another weird legal day. coming up, we turn to reverend al sharpton with me live to talk about his trip to the border and civil rights alliances being built. and paul manafort has a new filing. he is pushing to get out of jail. we'll explain. and former head of black water cooperating with bob mueller. all that and the actor sam
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press secretary sarah huckabee sanders calling on them to fix immigration policies, saying the fix was temporary while blaming democrats for the mess. >> the president's executive order has given a temporary solution to the problem but it is not permanent, we need congress to step up, democrats
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to stop playing political games, do their jobs, work with this president, let's fix the problem at the border. >> that's the white house argument today. keep in mind, it is over 2,000 children that remain separated from parents, many all over the nation because of trump's policy. msnbc's cal perry got a look in a camp that holds 300 children, separate from parents under the partially discontinued policy. here's what the emergency manager told him. >> the shelter would not have been necessary without the separations. the crisis was made as a result of the decision to separate the kids. quote, separations should never have happened. the process is flawed, he said, and it harmed the children. >> i'm joined by founder and director of immigrant rights group. and my colleague, host of politics nation. you just got back from visiting children at another texas detention center.
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let's start there. nothing new about the american civil rights movement engaging with international issues, as a legal matter, as we are reporting, some of the people you're visiting with may not have the legal right to be here, may not stay here. walk us through what you see as the human rights issue here. >> i think the human rights issue is clear. you're talking about a decision to separate the children from their parents, and the children may never be reconciled. i think a lot of what people are missing, ari, is that they did not have a plan to reconcile the families when the president signed the executive order, then they never had a plan. all they had to do was go ahead and use the plan they were going to use down the line when they're going through the process, so it was really that they had no intention of dealing with the human value here. where we got involved, civil rights groups, is you have two
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borders to this country. you have the canadian border and mexican border. why did the president say we're going to separate families coming over the mexican border which are south americans and central americans. because he knew they wouldn't tolerate one or two babies taken from a white canadian. so the race involved, dehumanization involved, and when we see over 200 children, some of them are part of this group of children that were denied because of family separation, they're in communities everywhere. >> i wonder, rev, whether the premise of the statement you make, which some in the white house strenuously object to is that also donald trump thought that the absence of white children, of white babies here would mean he would, quote, unquote, get away with this. was he wrong? >> i think he may or may not have been wrong. the question is, is the position
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morally and legally wrong. and i think the answer is clear. how do you have any double standards in the application of law and not be wrong legally and morally. he is not banning all people that come in here illegally saying -- he did not ban that saying, you have family separation. he only did it in this particular case, and one can only ask the question why, particularly when we have a decrease in numbers of people coming across the mexican border into the united states. >> enrique, walk us through what you see as the priority when we're here gathered tonight with 2053 children at least still effectively orphaned by trump administration policy. >> as usual, the reverend is absolutely right. this is a racial issue. it is horrific what donald trump is doing. no other country in the americas has a wall. no country in the world
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separates children. if these children were white, if they were canadian or norwegian, they would not be separated. what he is doing is inhumane, the whole world is watching. i was at a detention facility friday with senator harris. what is happening is unbelievable. how can you separate a child from a parent. that picture, made for a picture moment of signing an executive order which has no legs to stand on, donald trump is pure evil. what he is doing is horrific. the whole world is watching, including our children. we teach our children to love their neighbor, not to do bullying. what is taking place now, there's people sent back to central america. they don't know where their children are. the children never got to say good-bye to their parents. it is the worst of the american spirit and we need to continue to rise up and demand change as reverend sharpton did in the civil rights movement, we need to do that now. >> a lot of people argue it is not the american spirit.
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you mention senator harris, one of the many people that have done visits, trying to use their power and platform to draw attention to it so people can deal with the facts of what's happening to these people, these children in facilities. look at senator booker and harris and others. >> zero tolerance policies are undermining things that were working, processes that were established, and we have unfortunately an administration committing moral vandalism. >> there's no question we have to critically re-examine i.c.e. and its role and the way it is being administered and the work it is doing, and need to think about starting from scratch. >> it is wrong to separate babies, to use cruel, inhumane policies in order to gin up your political base. >> rev, for you, final thought on what we're hearing there, and also what you're hearing when in the old days a lot of white politicians claimed they were
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for the constitution while doing things in jim crow that undermined the bill of rights. talk to us about where we stand where the president is openly saying he is against the fifth amendment due process protection. >> i think w are, after going down to the center, seeing some of the families, we are in the middle of a real moral crisis and legal crisis and i think that the country deserves and must have legal leadership and moral leadership that will stand up and say when we have a president that just disavows the constitution, what are we talking about, it is a threat to anybody. it may start in mexico. it will come to all of us. we cannot allow this to be unaddressed and not confronted. >> you said what are we talking about, and people who know you in the halls of 30 rock, that's a phrase of yours.
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what are we talking about, what are we going to do about it. reverend sharpton, good to have you. thanks to you. politics nation airs sunday at 8:00 a.m. eastern. don't miss the rev there. up on the beat, paul manafort has a new push, he wants out of jail. and bob mueller digging through phones and laptops of a key trump ally who is now cooperating. i have that reporting when we're back in 60 seconds. your heart doesn't only belong to you. so if you have heart failure, ask your doctor about entresto.
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on a remote island off the coast of africa. mueller wants to know if there was discussion of back channel to trump officials and whether it raised criminal dealings. prince is cooperating with mueller, adds no, he did not arrange any back channel. he is not just talking. he says he gave mueller's team total access to his phone and computer. that is valuable. then there are other people in the probe that are not cooperating. after ten days in jail, paul manafort has a new legal move tonight. he is saying he will appeal the ruling which landed him in jail after alleged witness tampering. while paul manafort is mr. manafort's government name, he now has a different government identity. he is an inmate in the northern nick regional jail where he is known at inmate 45343. he is housed in a cell that measures between 12 x 12 feet, and 14 x 14. that cell has a toilet, shower, small table, and tv and phone
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he's allowed to use for outgoing collect calls. all of this has to be a major adjustment for manafort. other court filings revealed lavish spending on everything from fancy tailored suits to antique rugs to his favored range rovers. joined by two federal prosecutors, john flannery and meme roka. john, what does it mean to say he is cooperating and handed over stuff. >> sounds and feels like he's still shaving points. you had him going to save shells in the indian ocean, happened to meet a well connected, wealthy russian who would help set up a connection between the putin people and the trump people. and now he's denying that's not what it was about. and he originally made statements saying he was just
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surprised when he arrived in this glorious spot in the indian ocean when in fact we now know that he knew about it beforehand, and he asked for the meeting. not everybody cooperates fully. >> he is a liar. you think he is a liar. >> i think he's a liar, yeah. i can't believe him. it is hard to believe any of these people, you know. there was a comedian that would come on, tell a story, be confronted, well, yes, and then would tell another lie. these guys fit that comic model. >> and paul manafort trying to get out of jail means what? >> i don't think it means he is getting out of jail. the appeal is a real long shot. i thought it was likely the judge would detain him and she did, she made a good factual record. appellate courts show deference to this, they would have to find clearer or in her factual
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findings, i don't think there's any way that will happen given his conduct and showing the special counsel's office made, so i don't think he's getting out of jail. >> you're making the point that these kind of things once jailed don't start at the 50 yard line, you're at a huge disadvantage, the appeals court will likely accept the finding you have to be jailed unless you overturn or uncover something big which raises a strategy question. are lawyers doing this because they think they have a shot or to pl for him. >> it seems to me they're making every -- they're fighting hard. why exactly they're doing it, it could be a lot of client appeasement. they're making all sorts of motions in the district court as well, pretrial motions in the other case, the one going to trial in july and, you know, he's fighting hard.
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why you do that, it can be not even necessarily because you think you're going to win but because you can't accept that you're going to lose. i kind of think that's where manafort is right now. he's clearly not wrapped his head around the fact that he will be convicted at trial or needs to plead guilty, whether that means cooperating or not. that is increasingly what it is looking like. i don't know why his lawyers seem to be appeasing him. >> if i'm not mistaken, you're moving beyond legal analysis into emotional analysis. >> well, no. i mean, yes. it is more of a psychological analysis, how about that. and i am constantly trying to think about what phase these charged defendants are in because it is a process for them that they go through, it is an evolution. he is in the denial phase still as far as i can tell. >> so john, speak to that. she's speaking to the five stages there, the psychological
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dealing with being in that cell where you have time to think. what do you know from being a prosecutor, are there also five stages of money laundering, witness tampering, did i do that, do they have the evidence, what's my end game? >> you can't win the lottery unless you buy a ticket, there's some of that in any motion an attorney makes. then you need momentum of litigation, need a good argument. there are two points that go against manafort. first of all, he's considered a risk of flight. that's why he had two anklets to keep track of him. then in addition you have the question of strength of evidence upon which the district court relied. namely, he writes two people that are potential witnesses and said you weren't working in the united states, were you, you were working in europe. one of those goes to mueller and says he is trying to convince me to lie in this case. that kind of evidence and those kinds of factors i think will be
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hard to overcome and to have the court of appeals, three judge panel find there was abuse of discretion by the trial judge when she said look, i thought of every possible way i can allow you to stay out and i can't find one. i think they're going to defer to what the district judge said. >> there you have it. john, i want you to speak your heart and mind when you're on the beat. you know that. >> thank you for it. >> a little good mood moment in a tough legal day. thanks to you both. speaking of law and law and order, sam waterston who i grew up on is on the beat next. he has a message about protecting another famous prosecutor, bob mueller. >> in america there's a simple rule. no person is above the law. if you break the law, you pay
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times. we're seeing many different types of people getting involved in the resistance to donald trump, including leaders from arts and entertainment. cynthia nixon now running for governor in new york, jimmy kimmel, famously confronting republicans directly over views on children's health care. dave chappelle endorsing a candidate for the first time, something we covered on the beat. now another man weighing in, portrayed the face of justice for over a decade. sam waterston, best known for playing jack mccoy for 16 seasons on the hit law and order. his character defined for many what it means to be a prosecutor.
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>> where there's a law, i'll enforce it. where there's a crime, i'll prosecute it. where there's a victim, i'll speak for that victim. that's my bottom line. >> did you know it was wrong when you ate your cereal? >> yes. >> he is badgering, your honor. >> sit down and shut up. >> overruled. >> by the time i'm done, you'll be finished. my advice to you is get out of my way. >> law and order, third longest running crime show around. he is leading an effort with others to protect bob mueller. >> it is up to us to protect his investigation and our democracy because no one is above the law. not if you're rich, not if you're powerful. no one. >> waterston is associated with a certain fictional vision of what a prosecutor can be, benevolent, tough, and on law
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and order, almost always right. but also willing to take public hits to fight injustice. in our politics today, there's been a different discussion about prosecutors, portraits of some being unfair, aggressive, unwilling to take on cases of police misconduct, ignoring the testimony of women. i should mention in new york state, our former attorney general faces credible allegations of domestic abuse and violence against women that many say undermine the kind of law and order a prosecutor should represent. i'm joined by sam waterston. i have to tell you, full disclosure, big fan. thank you for being here. to get it out of the way, we have the sound. we'll play it. we had to do that. >> thank you. that's a familiar tune. >> thank you. i want to get into the work on this. as a legal eagle, law and order nerd, i'm curious what you think being associated with a
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character that so many people look up to and certain type of prosecutor, what do you think about the conversations around the country about some prosecutors that don't live up to that model? >> well, i have to say i think it is a little beside the point because the real issue it seems to me is the one that we tried to highlight, russia tried to highlight in that ad or videos dreaming clip or whatever you call it which is that no one is above the law, and so if there's a badly behaving prosecutor, there are laws to deal with that. if there's a badly behaving person in the country, there are laws to deal with that. so the real issue in my mind is whether or not anybody is going to be deemed to be above the law. so the real issue is about the law itself. >> what do you see as threat to bob mueller, what are you trying to do about it?
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>> well, what i'm trying to do about it is make people aware that this thing, the fact that the principal that no one is above the law is so very basic that we should all be alarmed when people make propositions that say that some people are above it. and i do that as a citizen. not as a celebrity. i think it is funny when people say celebrities are doing this to get attention when you're working in show business, people are generally nice to you. there isn't any fun in doing this. >> do you think there's a possibility that donald trump will try to fire bob mueller and declare himself the first truly
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lawless president? >> people, i don't know whether he will, but it is very important for every single american citizen. this thing about nobody being above the law, no one being above the law is like a foundational principle for us. if you take that away, then that's it for america. the law is not perfect. the law messes up. the law does all kinds of things wrong because it is made by people, run by people. and people are subject to it. to say somebody could do a better job, i mean, some single person, ask yourself who you would rather have let you know
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our politics has been consumed by the border crisis in the russia probe, but many candidates in the midterm races are trying to break through with their own messages. >> like texas democrat mj hagar who explains how many doors she's had to fight in opening them for her career. it looks like it spans decade in a single take. it now has gone viral with over two million views. and that success is one of the big hurdles for any new candidate, name recognition.
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take this ad in maryland that goes after that issue by trolling trump on the topic of same-sex marriage. >> i believe in public schools, not vouchers. >> take that, trump. i'm betsy devos. >> yeah! >> and what's the number one way i piss donald trump and the republicans? take that, trump! >> now those are both heartfelt biographic ads. another candidate may have overdone it by trying to break through with a little movie reference, a little top gun fantasy fiction. ♪ ♪ planned parenthood and obamacare you voted against, you lost that centrist feeling, because you've been right wing appealing ♪ >> no spoilers, but the voters will get to decide if that works. and now we've saved the most bizarre for last. this is a colorado democrat who decided to pepper spray himself
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on camera in this literally painful ad. >> this will stop anyone in their tracks. it's incredibly painful. for less than $1 per person in the u.s., we could have a secured canister of pepper spray in every classroom in america. >> we checked, and that candidate told us he stands by the ad. the idea was to show an alternative to guns in schools. but if your ad displays questionable judgment, the voters could grade you down. the comedy hosts desus and mere row. >> homies maced and waterboarded himself in order to get your vote? all right. >> damn, he took the obama poster and doubled it.
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we are out of time and out of pepper spray. so that does it for "the beat"
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tonight. i'll see you back here if you like at 6:00 p.m. eastern. but more importantly, "hardball" with chris matthews is up next. trump went offense. let's play "hardball." well, donald trump has started this week drive his political bayonet in hard. no more the divider of children from their parents he now poses as horatio at the gate. the lone american ready to defend our border. no moyfr did he say those crossing the border will get a hearing. the constitution be damned, it's trump law or no law. and now it's a human wall he is throwing up along the border. anyone who gets through it will be thrown back across into mexico, no matter where they kim from. good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. having spent most of last week on defense, president trump is


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